Below is a conversation that me and andy eads had with a person that is in our dynamics of youth ministry class. We had recently just watched the moved Saved and Lori (our professor) said that it is good for everyone who is going into youth ministry to watch it because it has a lot of things that can be pulled from the movie. Both me and andy agreed with her and this person thought that it was overall inappropriate to show in the class and said that Christians aren't like that at all. As the conversation went on andy was the main person typing to this person but overall i agreed with everything that andy was saying throughout this conversation. My opinion on the movie said is that we as Christians all act like that at some point even if it isn't to the extreme...because we as Christians will always have faults in our relationship with God and that is why we are constantly growing in our relationship with God. Well that's enough talking for now. Please leave comments telling me what you think of the conversation and of the movie Saved. God bless! ameints05 (10:42:58 PM): hi T65Jamo (10:44:39 PM): um would i talk to you T65Jamo (10:44:49 PM): yur always like a jerk to me when i talk T65Jamo (10:44:52 PM): to you T65Jamo (10:44:54 PM): ... T65Jamo (10:45:03 PM): and lately its noticeable T65Jamo (10:45:09 PM): ??? ameints05 (10:45:44 PM): umm ok ameints05 (10:46:01 PM): only because you have been one to me or that is at least how i feel ameints05 (10:46:30 PM): you always ignore me especially considering all the crap i did for you T65Jamo (10:47:36 PM): ok ive already thanked you enough and let you know how great ful i am T65Jamo (10:47:48 PM): i dont always have to talk to u on the net in class ameints05 (10:47:42 PM): that doesn't give you the right to just ignore me T65Jamo (10:47:50 PM): 2 T65Jamo (10:48:01 PM): \u get pissed at me and drew ameints05 (10:47:56 PM): ummm i never talk to you on the internet during class ameints05 (10:48:00 PM): no i dont T65Jamo (10:48:12 PM): because we dont support that ignorant movie ameints05 (10:48:10 PM): and most of the time andrew starts talking to me T65Jamo (10:48:57 PM): ok well you got all like defensive fro that dumb movie when i totally am assured its inappropriate T65Jamo (10:49:01 PM): totally T65Jamo (10:49:07 PM): should have never watche dit ameints05 (10:49:06 PM): i see both sides....you only see one T65Jamo (10:49:19 PM): i was so embarrassed on preview day ameints05 (10:49:27 PM): you are being closed minded about that movie and if you were in class today you would have heard agruments for both cases T65Jamo (10:50:34 PM): well thats wut you think i see both sides mine being right and the fact that the director and producer and writer all agree on the fact that christains are" as holy as thou" anbd that they are naive and they only think dumb and we are so bad T65Jamo (10:50:42 PM): thats in a bitter stand point T65Jamo (10:50:51 PM): ppl act like that\ T65Jamo (10:52:28 PM): and the but christains arnt full of blasfemy of the holy spirit and spinking of tongues christians know how hard it is to be a christian T65Jamo (10:52:37 PM): yah sure its got a message at the end\ T65Jamo (10:52:50 PM): that you know we have to know this and know that ameints05 (10:52:46 PM): it has messages all throughout the movie T65Jamo (10:53:04 PM): but in a comedy slash bitter sense T65Jamo (10:53:11 PM): i dont agree ameints05 (10:53:14 PM): well all i have to say is that you should have been in class today T65Jamo (10:53:30 PM): um 1 T65Jamo (10:53:34 PM): she knew i was gone T65Jamo (10:53:34 PM): 2 T65Jamo (10:53:37 PM): ive been sick T65Jamo (10:53:40 PM): and 3 T65Jamo (10:53:49 PM): i didnt want to hear aboutht e movie T65Jamo (10:53:56 PM): i was going to walk out ameints05 (10:53:54 PM): well we were talking about this exact same thing T65Jamo (10:54:02 PM): during preview day ameints05 (10:54:00 PM): there you go with being closed minded again T65Jamo (10:54:20 PM): ]closed T65Jamo (10:54:22 PM): minded T65Jamo (10:54:35 PM): i know when to not open up my mind to garbege T65Jamo (10:54:52 PM): im not going to let a secular movie teach me on how to be a better christian T65Jamo (10:54:58 PM): they make cleaner stuff T65Jamo (10:55:48 PM): i will get guidence and would rather be lectured by someone in authority T65Jamo (10:55:59 PM): i was offended from word go T65Jamo (10:56:08 PM): ive seen this movie b4 T65Jamo (10:56:11 PM): inhigh school T65Jamo (10:56:21 PM): i was offended then\ T65Jamo (10:56:37 PM): i think they went passed a couple lines to make a point T65Jamo (10:56:47 PM): but in bitter stand point from the director T65Jamo (10:56:54 PM): not cool T65Jamo (10:56:59 PM): i mean thjat is serious T65Jamo (10:57:45 PM): they had some harsh things in there to try and say hey christians are this way T65Jamo (10:57:58 PM): but im sure your youth pastor or church leader T65Jamo (10:58:03 PM): would tell you T65Jamo (10:58:22 PM): and put in a cleaner and approriate T65Jamo (10:58:23 PM): sense T65Jamo (10:58:44 PM): i was embassed to be a greenville student on preview day thats all T65Jamo (10:58:51 PM): and i was offended by the stuff T65Jamo (10:58:56 PM): just offended T65Jamo (10:59:08 PM): not disgusted we all know thta you can T65Jamo (10:59:37 PM): see and be around that inappropiate crap every day T65Jamo (10:59:40 PM): its real i know ameints05 (10:59:48 PM): Why should we sugar-coat the truth and make it 'cleaner and more appropriate'? ameints05 (10:59:56 PM): So more people can pretend it doesn't happen? T65Jamo (11:00:08 PM): but christains are not naive of the world T65Jamo (11:00:13 PM): we came from the world ameints05 (11:00:13 PM): that was andy typing a moment ago T65Jamo (11:00:22 PM): and are supposed to be in it T65Jamo (11:00:25 PM): 2 T65Jamo (11:00:45 PM): when i mean appropriate T65Jamo (11:00:48 PM): i mean like T65Jamo (11:00:51 PM): cleaner ameints05 (11:00:57 PM): News flash ameints05 (11:00:59 PM): Life isn't clean T65Jamo (11:01:19 PM): hey news flash i know T65Jamo (11:01:24 PM): i just sed it ameints05 (11:01:19 PM): Maybe while we're at it we should go back into the old testament and 'clean that up' ameints05 (11:01:28 PM): Since it's full of murder and sex T65Jamo (11:01:48 PM): are you calling God a murderer ameints05 (11:01:54 PM): No, I'm calling the Philistines murderers T65Jamo (11:02:04 PM): things were put into a harsh way back then becuz ameints05 (11:02:09 PM): You think people are smarter today? ameints05 (11:02:15 PM): That they're get it if it's not as harsh? ameints05 (11:02:17 PM): I sure don't T65Jamo (11:02:36 PM): jesus' bood wasnt alive ameints05 (11:02:38 PM): What does that even MEAN T65Jamo (11:02:47 PM): it was either black or white back then ameints05 (11:02:44 PM): Do you even KNOW T65Jamo (11:02:55 PM): you did this it has a consequence T65Jamo (11:03:14 PM): you did that it had a harsh consequence T65Jamo (11:03:18 PM): todaay T65Jamo (11:03:28 PM): ppl think it is a lighter sense T65Jamo (11:03:31 PM): beacuse T65Jamo (11:03:36 PM): of well yur forgiven T65Jamo (11:03:40 PM): and ameints05 (11:03:36 PM): How does this have anything to do with the movie? T65Jamo (11:03:49 PM): you wont see me stone a person for lying ameints05 (11:03:49 PM): That's great ameints05 (11:03:59 PM): You'll save your stones for people who want to expose the truth? T65Jamo (11:04:16 PM): wut T65Jamo (11:04:17 PM): ? T65Jamo (11:04:23 PM): i dont follow ameints05 (11:04:18 PM): You just told me that you won't stone a liar T65Jamo (11:04:32 PM): ok ameints05 (11:04:40 PM): But you're criticizing a movie whose sole purpose is to expose the shortcomings of the Christian church ameints05 (11:04:52 PM): All of which are very very true, whether you choose to see it or not T65Jamo (11:05:03 PM): it has its purposes i know ameints05 (11:05:05 PM): So let's recap ameints05 (11:05:09 PM): You're saying liars are okay T65Jamo (11:05:20 PM): but read the reviews and the directors stand point ameints05 (11:05:15 PM): But people who tell the truth aren't ameints05 (11:05:25 PM): Is that true? T65Jamo (11:05:44 PM): its in a bitter stand point as if he were an ex christain ameints05 (11:05:43 PM): Um, yeah ameints05 (11:05:53 PM): That's because no Christians will stand up and face the truth T65Jamo (11:06:06 PM): wut is he telling the truth about all i got otu of it is judging and ameints05 (11:06:00 PM): Obviously you won't ameints05 (11:06:18 PM): You just want to 'be offended' by it and discredit it completely ameints05 (11:06:28 PM): Rather than acknowledging your problems and trying to fix them T65Jamo (11:06:52 PM): like i said i jave problems , T65Jamo (11:06:57 PM): but no movie T65Jamo (11:07:00 PM): and no T65Jamo (11:07:18 PM): \person at greenville will help me acknowledge or get rid of them T65Jamo (11:07:20 PM): unless ameints05 (11:07:21 PM): Oh, so you're above everyone else's reproach T65Jamo (11:07:33 PM): unless i go to a cousel ameints05 (11:07:29 PM): You're the only one who can say whether you're right or wrong T65Jamo (11:07:41 PM): in ministry T65Jamo (11:07:51 PM): andor ameints05 (11:07:49 PM): That's a dangerous way to live, you know ameints05 (11:07:52 PM): You're not always right ameints05 (11:08:01 PM): You have to accept it that sometimes you're wrong and other people are right T65Jamo (11:08:10 PM): i didnt say im right all the time T65Jamo (11:08:14 PM): just because T65Jamo (11:08:25 PM): iuwas offended by the blasfemy in it ameints05 (11:08:20 PM): You just said that no person at greenville or a movie can tell you what to do ameints05 (11:08:23 PM): Blasphemy? ameints05 (11:08:30 PM): Do you even know what that means? ameints05 (11:08:35 PM): I can already see you can't spell it T65Jamo (11:08:47 PM): um im personating T65Jamo (11:08:54 PM): acting in bad way T65Jamo (11:08:58 PM): totally ameints05 (11:08:59 PM): Hm T65Jamo (11:09:13 PM): just putting it in a jokingly way ameints05 (11:09:20 PM): Cause see, I always thought that blasphemy was purposely cursing God and trying to get other people to do the same T65Jamo (11:09:30 PM): like the way that girl joked about the speaking in tongues T65Jamo (11:09:52 PM): unforgivable sin T65Jamo (11:09:57 PM): bible says T65Jamo (11:10:08 PM): the point is ameints05 (11:10:02 PM): And are you really going to tell me that you've never laughed at any joke involving the Bible or Jesus? T65Jamo (11:10:11 PM): i donthave to ameints05 (11:10:15 PM): I mean, I can't prove that you have T65Jamo (11:10:23 PM): like the movie ameints05 (11:10:18 PM): But I doubt it T65Jamo (11:10:31 PM): 2 ameints05 (11:10:29 PM): Two? ameints05 (11:10:36 PM): Are we speaking in binary? T65Jamo (11:10:51 PM): joking about Gods humar is different that making fun of it' T65Jamo (11:10:58 PM): see T65Jamo (11:11:13 PM): why would i open my self to alot of greenville conusel T65Jamo (11:11:15 PM): ?? ameints05 (11:11:08 PM): So it's not okay to use humor to point out shortcomings in the church? T65Jamo (11:11:21 PM): its a liberal art school T65Jamo (11:11:23 PM): huh? T65Jamo (11:11:25 PM): isnt it ameints05 (11:11:29 PM): Cause that's what the movie was about T65Jamo (11:11:50 PM): i came here to get better knowlege T65Jamo (11:11:52 PM): about God ameints05 (11:11:50 PM): Okay T65Jamo (11:12:02 PM): and God's plan for my life ameints05 (11:11:59 PM): You've not responded to anything I've said T65Jamo (11:12:07 PM): but all ive gotten here T65Jamo (11:12:09 PM): is alot of ameints05 (11:12:07 PM): And you've changed the subject like sixteen times T65Jamo (11:12:16 PM): ":abroad thinking " T65Jamo (11:12:21 PM): choose ameints05 (11:12:18 PM): So I don't see any point to continuing this conversation T65Jamo (11:12:29 PM): your own opinion ameints05 (11:12:24 PM): Goodbye T65Jamo (11:12:36 PM): bye T65Jamo (11:12:44 PM): ending T65Jamo (11:12:49 PM): whether you on or not T65Jamo (11:13:24 PM): it says in the last days in the bible that the wrong will be right and the right will be wrong T65Jamo (11:13:40 PM): do we take stuff in and look at stuff from other ppl T65Jamo (11:14:06 PM): and whether we know we do it or not or we are sure that we do it or not, we try to figure things out T65Jamo (11:14:14 PM): and try to dig threw the mess T65Jamo (11:14:22 PM): and say hey this is wut i beleive T65Jamo (11:14:28 PM): and i think its right T65Jamo (11:14:35 PM): i was just offenede T65Jamo (11:14:38 PM): becuz T65Jamo (11:14:44 PM): some of that stuff T65Jamo (11:15:33 PM): went against some of wut i was taught and i know alot of us "christians" the movies says, dont do everything T65Jamo (11:15:43 PM): the movie syas we do T65Jamo (11:15:50 PM): veen since ive been here T65Jamo (11:15:56 PM): all i will agree witht hat T65Jamo (11:16:36 PM): movie is that christains are quick to judge and look at thgings with a frown b4, a smile, im at fault , your at fault T65Jamo (11:16:38 PM): good day T65Jamo (11:16:45 PM): im never right T65Jamo (11:16:54 PM): i have morals T65Jamo (11:16:58 PM): good bye ameints05 (11:21:50 PM): P.S. You're crazy ameints05 (11:21:56 PM): Ta T65Jamo (11:22:11 PM): i deleted you bye |